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martin feinberg, who actually lives in newtown connecticut. the elder mr. feinberg today called the events devastating. joining me now is daniel gross the global business editor for "newsweek" and the "daily beast." he has been covering the cerberus story. he's coming to us from new york. welcome back inside "the war room." >> good to be here. >> jennifer: so how significant is it that the california teacher's pension is threatening to divest from this fund and what does this portend for other potential pension funds? >> i think it actually is pretty significant. i wouldn't say it is a dirty little secret. it is very little known if this whole private equity industry, we're talking about the blackstone group and bain capital and kkr and cerberus, all of these billionaires who are buying and selling companies, this whole industry only exists because public employee pension funds invest lots of money into them. it got started with the oregon public employee pension fund. any viewers out there if you work for a city or state or teacher, you can go to the web s
martin feinberg, who actually lives in newtown connecticut. the elder mr. feinberg today called the events devastating. joining me now is daniel gross the global business editor for "newsweek" and the "daily beast." he has been covering the cerberus story. he's coming to us from new york. welcome back inside "the war room." >> good to be here. >> jennifer: so how significant is it that the california teacher's pension is threatening to divest from this...
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we see the private hedge fund behind the maker of the gun that the killer and the newtown incident used, state that they're going to try to sell the company and get out of the firearms business. so this is really a watershed moment. i think the nra is really on its heels which is why i argue that we really need to work strongly to marginalize the nra and to recognize what a radical fringe group it's become over the last generation. >> eliot: i wanted to come back in a moment to how one can do that because i think that's exactly right. how to reveal to the public that they are a fringe group and perhaps more importantly reveal to the members of congress that the nra is a fringe group that should not be accorded the respect and the perceived power it has had in the past. i want to read a quote from wayne la lapierrre the head of the nra that you use in a powerful article you've written. this is wayne won't pierre, ceo of the nra saying with four more years of obama your firearms freedoms are gone and we'll spend the rest of our lives mourning the freedoms we've lost. every freedom we cher
we see the private hedge fund behind the maker of the gun that the killer and the newtown incident used, state that they're going to try to sell the company and get out of the firearms business. so this is really a watershed moment. i think the nra is really on its heels which is why i argue that we really need to work strongly to marginalize the nra and to recognize what a radical fringe group it's become over the last generation. >> eliot: i wanted to come back in a moment to how one...
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it's not that his father lives in nu newtown. a lot of media is reporting that the reason why he wants to sell the freedom group is that the california state teachers pension fund is threatening to pull their $750 million investment. >> eliot: this was not a moral conversion on his part. it was a hard economic analysis. >> how did it help by selling? he's just going to pass it on to the highest bidder who is doing what they're doing. >> eliot: what should he do? >> i don't know, he needs to be creative. as brian said in the last segment, he doesn't think that congress is going to act. maybe we get the defense department not to buy
it's not that his father lives in nu newtown. a lot of media is reporting that the reason why he wants to sell the freedom group is that the california state teachers pension fund is threatening to pull their $750 million investment. >> eliot: this was not a moral conversion on his part. it was a hard economic analysis. >> how did it help by selling? he's just going to pass it on to the highest bidder who is doing what they're doing. >> eliot: what should he do? >> i...
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maybe now after newtown that will change, we're hearing lots of people signing up whether its mayors against illegal guns or other local groups, we'll have to see if they can transfer that into some sort of political force to get a bill through conference. >> eliot: you tell an amazing story in one of your recent articles about how the disclose act how it is a legislative response to the citizens united case created a special carve-out for the nra. tell that story. it is such a remarkable manifestation of the nra's capacity to twist the legislative process. >> essentially you had a bill that was going to require groups to spend money who don't disclose their donors to have to disclose their donors. the nra said we're going to score this bill. if you vote wrong on it, we're going to give you an "f." that actually is a really big deal to a lot of blue-dog democrats, to a lot of republicans who might vote for it. the blue-dog democrats were going to balk and not vote on this bill. this amendment basically said that certainly organizations that have been around for a certain amount of ye
maybe now after newtown that will change, we're hearing lots of people signing up whether its mayors against illegal guns or other local groups, we'll have to see if they can transfer that into some sort of political force to get a bill through conference. >> eliot: you tell an amazing story in one of your recent articles about how the disclose act how it is a legislative response to the citizens united case created a special carve-out for the nra. tell that story. it is such a remarkable...
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some say they have made that decision because of the tragedy in newtown. senators dianne feinstein and chuck schumer plan to push for tighter restrictions including a new assault weapons ban and both and on morning shows to push for that this weekend. in the senate, there are 31 pro-gun legislators. an interesting note betsy fisher-martin says they reached out to all of the senators to express their views on meet the "meet the press" press". every single one declined. if there is any ray of hope that can come out of this tragedy, it's that we could see an improvement to the country's mental health services. we are waiting on police to release details about the mental state of shooter adam lanza but similar mass murderers like those guilty at virginia tech or gabby giffords did suffer from certain serious mental health conditions. psychologists hope this time, it will lead to better care. he said we only hear of shootings with high enough body counts to make the news but mental illness risks countless lives every day. he said schools and communities have cu
some say they have made that decision because of the tragedy in newtown. senators dianne feinstein and chuck schumer plan to push for tighter restrictions including a new assault weapons ban and both and on morning shows to push for that this weekend. in the senate, there are 31 pro-gun legislators. an interesting note betsy fisher-martin says they reached out to all of the senators to express their views on meet the "meet the press" press". every single one declined. if there is...
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>> newtown connecticut. i heard that over the weekend. >> stephanie: christof, do we have the courage to stop this in "the new york times" yesterday. one of the best pieces i saw in the harrowing aftermath of the shooting in connecticut one thought wells in my mind. why can't we regulate guns as seriously as we do cars. the fundamental reason is not because we have lunatics or criminals, all countries have them. but that we all suffer from a political failure to regulate guns. children age 5 to 14 in america are 13 times as likely to be murdered with guns as children in other industrialized countries. seriously, is that -- i get it. oh, we have more freedom. is that the price you want to pay your kids? >> we don't allow blind people to drive. we shouldn't allow mentally ill people to have assault weapons. >> stephanie: let's treat firearms rationally as the center of a public health crisis that claims one life every 20 minutes. the united states isn't going to ban guns but we can take steps to reduce the car
>> newtown connecticut. i heard that over the weekend. >> stephanie: christof, do we have the courage to stop this in "the new york times" yesterday. one of the best pieces i saw in the harrowing aftermath of the shooting in connecticut one thought wells in my mind. why can't we regulate guns as seriously as we do cars. the fundamental reason is not because we have lunatics or criminals, all countries have them. but that we all suffer from a political failure to regulate...
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we don't know exactly what motivated adam lanza to do what he did in newtown. while more funding for mental health screening and treatment is necessary this country we don't know if that alone would are saved the lives of those 20 children. we don't know what could have happened if a teacher or principal in the school had been armed even though prominent republicans like virginia governor bob mcdonnell and texas governor rick perry among others are proposing it as a solution. we don't know if an armed teacher or principal would have made much of a difference. we also don't know if our culture of violence portrayed in movies and video games should bear part of the blame despite politicians on both sides of thule use aisle using this to deflect the focus from guns to the other potential problem areas. we don't know why when congressman jack kingston says "was this young man addicted to violent video games was there a hollywood influence? i think we can't just stop at guns." nobody just wants to stop at guns but we do want to start with them. there are several thi
we don't know exactly what motivated adam lanza to do what he did in newtown. while more funding for mental health screening and treatment is necessary this country we don't know if that alone would are saved the lives of those 20 children. we don't know what could have happened if a teacher or principal in the school had been armed even though prominent republicans like virginia governor bob mcdonnell and texas governor rick perry among others are proposing it as a solution. we don't know if...
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it is because officials are concerned about copycat killers following the newtown tragedy. now, the superintendent of one of the districts issued a statement saying... john fuglesang my friends has it really come to this? that kindergarteners can't go to school because we, as a country can't ensure they'll be safe from semi-automatic weapon wielding lunatics and the solution from our far right wing friends? arm the teachers. the very teaches they've called union thugs. we should pay to train these teachers. the people who scream us to about fast and furious and said gun proliferation and mexico was dangerous are still telling us gun proliferation in america makes us safer. welcome to the u.s.a. where of some you will find it's easier to buy a weapon designed to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time than it is to marry who you love or vote where you want or send your kids to kindergarten. we now live in a society where the aurora, colorado, shooter could buy 6,000 rounds of ammo online and tommy chung went to jail for selling bombs. it is painfully obvious... we nee
it is because officials are concerned about copycat killers following the newtown tragedy. now, the superintendent of one of the districts issued a statement saying... john fuglesang my friends has it really come to this? that kindergarteners can't go to school because we, as a country can't ensure they'll be safe from semi-automatic weapon wielding lunatics and the solution from our far right wing friends? arm the teachers. the very teaches they've called union thugs. we should pay to train...
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in newtown connecticut. mayor bloomberg you're -- you live in new york. >> i live -- and now i'm a new york resident. i got married in massachusetts and as soon as d.c. -- as soon as new york passed gay marriage, i got married there. my marriage works there. >> bill: okay. mayor bloomberg i guess has been really out in front for a long time on the gun control issue. he did an interview with scott pelley last night. he asked him the question why do you care about this issue. listen to mayor bloomberg. >> why is the murder rate around the country? i'm an american. what's your question? >> why is this mike bloomberg's crusade? >> i live in america. and i'm a human being. aren't we supposed -- i don't know what your religion teaches you. mine teaches you to take care of each other. in america read the constitution. we're all equal and we're all americans. >> bill: as michael harrison pointed out yesterday on talk radio or -- news site is. >> talkers.com. >> bill: sorry. this is the issue that's dominating talk r
in newtown connecticut. mayor bloomberg you're -- you live in new york. >> i live -- and now i'm a new york resident. i got married in massachusetts and as soon as d.c. -- as soon as new york passed gay marriage, i got married there. my marriage works there. >> bill: okay. mayor bloomberg i guess has been really out in front for a long time on the gun control issue. he did an interview with scott pelley last night. he asked him the question why do you care about this issue. listen...
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the people who have lost their kids at aurora colorado and newtown connecticut. yesterday we heard from sandy phillips here with the brady hill campaign on capitol hill lost other daughter in the theater shooting in aurora. >> congress, the senate and our president now have an opportunity to be a hero as well and stop the blood shed. >> bill: whether they call themselves mothers against assault weapons or mothers against gun violence or whatever, i think this is going to change the debate. good news yesterday on the gun front and, we are finally, exposing the nra for what it is. 866-55-press. let's talk about it. does this end the stranglehold that the nra has had on so many spineless politicians, democrats and republicans? you tell me. >> this is the"the full court press: the bill press show," live on your radio and on current tv. [ music ] >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say anything. >> only on current tv. alr
the people who have lost their kids at aurora colorado and newtown connecticut. yesterday we heard from sandy phillips here with the brady hill campaign on capitol hill lost other daughter in the theater shooting in aurora. >> congress, the senate and our president now have an opportunity to be a hero as well and stop the blood shed. >> bill: whether they call themselves mothers against assault weapons or mothers against gun violence or whatever, i think this is going to change the...
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putting money or have invested money in gun manufacturers and this is now the time in the wake of the newtown, connecticut, tragedy to pull that money from gun manufacturers. nobody has more out spoken on this than the public advocate for the city of new york bill deblasio joins us on the news line this morning. bill g to have you with us. >> caller: thank you, bill. >> bill: >> bill: let me ask you: have you taken a look at new york city pension plans and any direct connection with gun manufacturers? >> absolutely, bill. i think you see this in any public pension fund in the country. we had 18 million in investments, in guns and ammunition industries. and i have to tell you the response has been amazing. i said a few days ago, that i am going to initiate a divestment action for all new york city pension funds. we have 115 billion in assets. so we are a big player in the pension world. i am going to be reaching out to pension funds all over the country and ask them to do the same. this is one of these moments in history. you have been powerful on this point. you know we change now or we will
putting money or have invested money in gun manufacturers and this is now the time in the wake of the newtown, connecticut, tragedy to pull that money from gun manufacturers. nobody has more out spoken on this than the public advocate for the city of new york bill deblasio joins us on the news line this morning. bill g to have you with us. >> caller: thank you, bill. >> bill: >> bill: let me ask you: have you taken a look at new york city pension plans and any direct...
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>> stephanie: that is according to the national review, which suggested that newtown we the price of the second amendment. >> oh okay. >> stephanie: from anti-feminist charlotte allen suggesting the reason the shooter was able to kill so many students was because nowtown was fenen-ized institution. the principal seemed to perform bravely -- seemed to? >> god. >> stephanie: according to reports she activated the notification center. in general a -- >> you can stop a bullet -- wait a minute. i was a husky 12 year old. i wouldn't be rushing anybody with a gun. i'm sorry. >> and if you play football you still can't stop a freaking bullet. >> stephanie: is there a parent in the world this would tell their 12 year old, by the way if this happens be sure and rush at the shooter. >> yeah. >> stephanie: lots of people want to get in on this. glen in wisconsin, you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, i wanted to wish you guys a merry christmas and happy new year. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: and all of these morons that think that teachers should be armed. i think the ver
>> stephanie: that is according to the national review, which suggested that newtown we the price of the second amendment. >> oh okay. >> stephanie: from anti-feminist charlotte allen suggesting the reason the shooter was able to kill so many students was because nowtown was fenen-ized institution. the principal seemed to perform bravely -- seemed to? >> god. >> stephanie: according to reports she activated the notification center. in general a -- >> you can...
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i thought when i heard about newtown, it made me think of birmingham alabama the church bombing, the dogs and hoses set on kids, that really changed the whole tone of the civil rights movement. don't you see that people are going to start coming over? are there any of your colleagues that are going to start coming over now because this has hit chirp? this is at a breaking point. forget the nra. >> well, i understand what you're saying. there was still resistence from those folks in the deep south in the civil rights. they got it passed, i don't know whether or not there is that type of relationship that could exist with the republicans in the house. i know they are going to be affected, but i think the nra is so strong. really while there was this resistence to segregation there wasn't necessarily a political powerful interest group that was out there for segregation like the nra. there wasn't anything on that side of it. the banality of it. they score you and tell their members what to do. they are, indeed afraid. there was a woman susan lind, who was beaten by the nra and she was d
i thought when i heard about newtown, it made me think of birmingham alabama the church bombing, the dogs and hoses set on kids, that really changed the whole tone of the civil rights movement. don't you see that people are going to start coming over? are there any of your colleagues that are going to start coming over now because this has hit chirp? this is at a breaking point. forget the nra. >> well, i understand what you're saying. there was still resistence from those folks in the...